


Technologist, serial entrepreneur, world-class investor, self-experimenter, and all-around wild and crazy guy Kevin Rose (@KevinRose) rejoins me for another episode of “The Random Show.” In this one we explore crypto investing, NFT experiments, dogecoin, Zen Buddhism, current workouts, sleep supplements, and much more.
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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
- Connect with Kevin Rose:
Website | Modern Finance | Instagram | Twitter
- Once-Weekly Noninsulin | Ozempic
- Exclusive Drunk Footage | Diggnation
- Zofran | RxList
- Continuous Glucose Monitoring | Dexcom CGM
- The 4-Hour Body: An Uncommon Guide to Rapid Fat Loss, Incredible Sex, and Becoming Superhuman by Timothy Ferriss | Amazon
- Peter Attia, M.D. — Fasting, Metformin, Athletic Performance, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show #398
- Ketamine | RxList
- A Lighter, Brighter Buzz | JuneShine Hard Kombucha
- Hard Seltzer | White Claw
- The Untold Truth Of Zima | Mashed
- Feierdun Doorway Pull Up and Chin Up Bar | Amazon
- GLUT4 | Wikipedia
- Cribs for Gyms — Rust and Iron, Episode 1 with Kelly Starrett | The Tim Ferriss Show
- Quad Dipsea
- Mobility Training Program, Exercises, and Equipment | The Ready State
- 12 Awesome Types of Climbing You Really Should Know | The Climbing Guy
- Top 10 Jean-Claude Van Damme Splits | WatchMojo
- Jason Nemer — Inside the Magic of AcroYoga | The Tim Ferriss Show #182
- Christopher Sommer — The Secrets of Gymnastic Strength Training | The Tim Ferriss Show #158
- Christopher Sommer — The Secrets of Gymnastic Strength Training, Part Two — Home Equipment, Weighted Stretches, and Muscle-Ups | The Tim Ferriss Show #180
- The Jefferson Curl: One Exercise for Full Body Mobility | GymnasticBodies
- Golgi Tendon Reflex | Wikipedia
- PNF Stretching: Technique and Guidelines | Healthline
- The Rucking Company | GORUCK
- My Toughest Fitness Challenge Involved 100 Pounds of Caribou Meat by Michael Easter | Men’s Health
- Pilates | Wikipedia
- NFTs: Blockchain-Powered Art, Trading Cards, Music, and More with Aftab Hossain | Modern Finance 1
- Buy NFTs and More on Ethereum | OpenSea
- The Price of Everything
- Beeple: His Story, The Future of NFTs, His Favorite Digital Artist, and More. | Modern Finance 4
- The Tim Ferriss Podcast is Live! Here Are Episodes 1 and 2 | The Tim Ferriss Show
- This Banana Was Duct-Taped to a Wall. It Sold for $120,000. | GQ
- VeeFriends – Gary Vaynerchuk’s New NFT Project | Modern Finance 9
- CryptoArt | XCOPY
- Art Blocks – Generative NFT Art with Erick Snowfro | Modern Finance – 8
- Chromie Squiggle by Snowfro | Art Blocks
- Generative Art and NFTs | ARTnews
- Collect and Trade Moments in NBA History | NBA Top Shot
- CryptoPunks – The NFTs That Started It All. Their Origin Story and Future Plans | Modern Finance 5
- Larva Labs
- Jay-Z Adopts CryptoPunk NFT as His Twitter Profile Picture | The Block
- Lights Out: A Cyberattack, a Nation Unprepared, Surviving the Aftermath by Ted Koppel | Amazon
- The 4-Hour Chef: The Simple Path to Cooking Like a Pro, Learning Anything, and Living the Good Life by Timothy Ferriss | Amazon
- Impact of Hurricane Sandy | NYC.gov
- Powerwall | Tesla
- ‘CryptoPunk’ NFT Sells for $11.8 Million at Sotheby’s | Reuters
- CryptoPunks | LarvaLabs
- CryptoPunks: Details for Punk #6487 | LarvaLabs
- Why Did Jack Dorsey Buy Jay-Z’s Failed Music Service? | Vox
- Twitter Boss Jack Dorsey’s First Tweet Sold for $2.9 Million as an NFT | Reuters
- NYSE: SHOP | Google
- NASDAQ: AMZN | Google
- True Ventures
- Bitcoin, Ethereum, Crypto News, and Price Data | CoinDesk
- What Are Meme Coins, and Can They Make You Rich? | The Motley Fool
- Decentralized Trading Protocol | Uniswap
- Dogecoin Extends Its One-Month Surge to 100% After Elon Musk Agrees with Mark Cuban’s Bullish Take On the Crypto | Markets Insider
- Very Foundation, Much Wow: A Conversation With Dogecoin’s Jackson Palmer | TechCrunch
- Never Tweet: How Elon Musk Is Ruining the Promise of Crypto | PCMag
- Bitcoin Is Already Incentivizing Renewable Energy | CoinDesk
- Vitalik Buterin, Creator of Ethereum, on Understanding Ethereum, ETH vs. BTC, ETH2, Scaling Plans and Timelines, NFTs, Future Considerations, Life Extension, and More (Featuring Naval Ravikant) | The Tim Ferriss Show #504
- Chia – A New Cryptocurrency Launching Soon, Built by Bram Cohen, Founder of BitTorrent | Modern Finance
- New Cryptocurrency Chia Blamed for Hard Drive Shortages | The Guardian
- A Crypto Wallet & Gateway to Blockchain Apps | MetaMask
- Build Crypto Apps That Scale | Solana
- The Origins and Future of Aave, the Decentralized Finance Protocol to Lend and Borrow Crypto | Modern Finance 12
- Do More with Your Crypto | BlockFi
- Algorithmic, Autonomous Interest Rate Protocol | Compound
- Open Source DeFi Protocol | Aave
- What We Know About China’s Cryptocurrency Crackdown | The Verge
- Alchemix – DeFi Loans That Repay Themselves with Scoopy Trooples | Modern Finance 16
- The Future Yield Tokenization Protocol | Alchemix
- Smart Contracts | Investopedia
- Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA) | Investopedia
- Make Wealth Your Own | Wealthfront
- Stop Buying Bitcoin with Robinhood! | Making of a Millionaire
- Cryptocurrency Exchange to Buy Bitcoin and Ether | Gemini
- How Safe Is My Crypto Yield? with Zac Prince (CEO, BlockFi) and Matt Ballensweig (Genesis) | Modern Finance 11
- Dr. Andrew Huberman — A Neurobiologist on Optimizing Sleep, Enhancing Performance, Reducing Anxiety, Increasing Testosterone, and Using the Body to Control the Mind | The Tim Ferriss Show #521
- Thorne Research Magnesium Bisglycinate Powder | Amazon
- Oura Ring
- Eight Sleep
- Heart Rate Variability: A New Way to Track Well-Being | Harvard Health
- Carlson Labs Wild Caught Elite Omega-3 | Amazon
- Nordic Naturals ProOmega 650 EPA/450 DHA | Amazon
- Thorne Research Super EPA Supplements | Amazon
- Allopurinol | RxList
- Gout: The Missing Chapter from Good Calories, Bad Calories | Tim Ferriss
- Are Saunas the Next Big Performance-Enhancing “Drug?” | Tim Ferriss
- How to Know if Zen Meditation Is Right for You | Verywell Mind
- Sanbo Zen Lineage | Mountain Cloud Zen Center
- Vipassana Meditation | Dhamma.org
- Naval Ravikant on Meditation | TUANVC
- Meditation and Breathing Exercises | Oak
- Sanbo Kyodan | Wikipedia
- Three Treasures of Zen | Mountain Cloud Zen Center
- How to Practice Zen Koans | Lion’s Roar
- Four Myths About Zen Buddhism’s “Mu Koan” | OUPblog
- 61 Zen Koans with Commentary by Clark Strand | Tricycle
- Transcendental Meditation
- Dennis McKenna — The Depths of Ayahuasca: 500+ Sessions, Fundamentals, Advanced Topics, Science, Churches, Learnings, Warnings, and Beyond | The Tim Ferriss Show #523
- A Conversation with Henry Shukman | Waking Up with Sam Harris
- Two Men Enter, One Man Leaves | Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome
- The Darya Rose Show
SHOW NOTES
- The evolving war against elevated blood glucose, and why this show was almost rescheduled. [06:12]
- A light and refreshing alcoholic beverage I’ve been enjoying lately. [14:57]
- A recent bad decision I made. [18:12]
- As we get older, how have our workouts been focused? [20:43]
- What type of exercise, in particular, has made Kevin more durable during playtime with his kids? [34:40]
- Will I ever create my own NFTs or participate in the market surrounding them? [41:07]
- With so many NFTs being created these days, how do you separate the wheat from the chaff? [49:12]
- What is generative art? [49:39]
- There’s nothing quite like having your house struck by lightning in the middle of recording a podcast to remind you of the importance of emergency preparedness. [54:21]
- Back to NFTs: even Jay-Z has gotten in on the action by changing his Twitter icon to a CryptoPunk — a trailblazing class of NFTs that big-name auction houses like Sotheby’s and Christie’s take seriously and sell for millions of dollars. How significant is this, really? [1:01:14]
- On riding the emotional roller coaster that is investment and trying to guess where the markets will be down the track. Regrets? I’ve had a few. [1:07:40]
- In the blockchain space, what is Kevin — as an investor — paying close attention to? [1:12:50]
- On the general worthlessness of meme coins, the transcendence of Dogecoin, and what makes one cryptocurrency more “real” over another. [1:14:06]
- Do public statements from heavy hitters like Elon Musk cause the value of various cryptocurrencies to artificially fluctuate, or are these fluctuations more significantly controlled by other market factors? [1:18:25]
- If Bitcoin is such a “dirty” currency that has environmentalists concerned, can we expect it to clean up its act? Or are alternatives like Ethereum and Chia better poised to bring us greener crypto? [1:20:08]
- The best way to learn how blockchain technologies work? Don’t sink your life savings into them, but get your hands dirty and play. [1:25:08]
- With so many blockchain projects active today, how do Kevin and his partners at True Ventures vet potential investments? What wild innovations are being pitched right now that might revolutionize the future of finance? [1:25:55]
- What is BlockFi, and what are its rewards and risks compared to traditional banking alternatives? Does Kevin see future governmental regulation putting a damper on the potential of this kind of platform, or will it bolster its use by the average consumer? [1:30:13]
- Only in the world of DeFi: how self-repaying loans work through the Alchemix protocol. [1:34:06]
- While Kevin welcomes sensible blockchain regulation in the US to clarify the intangibles for the average consumer, what are the potential pitfalls of crypto that worry him? [1:36:26]
- Dollar cost averaging and risk management to avoid the dreaded panic sell. [1:39:13]
- Why I don’t make an investment I can’t hold for at least three years. [1:40:52]
- Why, based on current information, I’m holding onto my Bitcoin and Ethereum for the foreseeable future. [1:42:17]
- When it might make sense for even a true believer to sell off their cryptocurrency and diversify assets. [1:44:09]
- Why even modest, but stable interest returned on an investment isn’t the worst thing in the world, and how to ensure you’re earning interest on the crypto you’re holding. [1:46:13]
- What I’ve been doing to facilitate better sleep in the past few weeks, and how I’ve been tracking it. [1:49:33]
- What constitutes a bad night of sleep for me? [1:54:00]
- How do I supplement my omega-3s, and what seem to be their unexpected benefits? [1:55:56]
- Why you should never oil your sauna. [2:00:53]
- The biggest game-changer for Kevin: a year of daily 55-minute Zen meditation sessions. [2:03:10]
- I reflect on my own deep experiences — including a psychotic breakdown — with Vipassana meditation, and how a sauna can put me in the right frame of mind to meditate effectively, feel physically and emotionally refreshed, and dramatically increase HRV. [2:03:42]
- In order to stay committed to his goal of a daily, 55-minute practice for the past year, how did Kevin’s approach to meditation differ from previous attempts? [2:07:43]
- What does one of Kevin’s meditation sessions look like, how does it feel, and in what way do koans — paradoxical anecdotes or riddles — fit into the equation? [2:11:41]
- What prompted Kevin’s commitment to Zen meditation, what has he learned so far, and how much does he have left to learn? [2:22:19]
- Why Kevin thinks I’d be an ideal candidate for Zen meditation, why I should invite his Zen teacher to the show, and how Zen and psychedelics might perceive reality through similar lenses. [2:25:16]
- Why you should listen to The Darya Rose Show. [2:37:23]
- Parting thoughts. [2:39:44]
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